Stupid cows, no wonder it is hot. Oh wait, its' summer. And, is it a liberal cow or conservative cow. Are bulls different? What about wildabeasts (sp)?

I wonder how much UN climate study grant money(through, of course, the generous contribution of the USA) that guy got to stand in front of cow burps to detect the amount of methane emitted? And you AGWers say there is no reason to continue the catastrophe position of the movement. How else would this guy get to be paid to stand in a field breathing cow belchs? And you know, he had to compare with the back end too...

How soon do you think it will be until a study is done on the emissions at a football game?

Just want to share a very powerful global warming poster I came across with other blog readers. Go to: http://digg.com/environment/Powerful_Global_Warming_Poster

Wow...this guy sounds like he right on the money with this!

The poster is not that powerful. If you want some reality shouldn't the polar bears be floating?

Hmmm...Let�s see, cows are causing global warming due to their lack of table manners.�how about we genetically alter all the pastures around the world so cows don�t have upset tummies.
Yeah, that�s a practical idea!!!!???
I�ve got a better one, replace the salt licks with antacid tablets. Or send them to school to get some manners!
If you're smart enough to be a �scientist�, how is it that so many of them come up with such stupid ideas!

RE: the "Powerful" Global Warming Poster. Would it still be "Powerful" if there were roaches in the globe? It shouldn't make any difference what kind of animal is in the globe, it should be just as "powerful". It is just that humans think the Polar Bear is sooooooooooo cute, roaches and bugs not so much. Plus, the poster is kind of stupid anyway. The polar bears will just swim to the nearest land mass, and if they don't, well, something else will take their place. Maybe cows? Actually, I prefer horses. Global Warming alarmists totally lose their message on me when you start analyzing how one can reduce cow belches to reduce methane emissions. Someone has too much grant money out there.

But why stop at cows????? Why not prevent humans from eating foods that will cause them to pass gas???? That's it! Let's regulate our food intake! Let's regulate what we can and can't buy at the supermarket! Let's lobby congress! "Distinguished Senator's of the Climate Crisis Panel. Something urgently needs to be done to prevent humans from FARTING! Because the emissions are warming the earth and will lead to disaster!" While we're at it, let's reduce the populations, not only of the cows, but of we evil humans that are going to cause catastrophic events! Wouldn't Marko and Guiltline Tom and Andrew and all of the other tree huggers on her just love that????

I WILL DENY YOUR PROPAGANDA UNTIL THE END!

Ah - the polar bears... Another favorite AGW myth. According to the USGS, In Alaska, Polar Bear populations have been increasing to the point where they are seen as unsustainable.
http://biology.usgs.gov/s+t/noframe/s034.htm

"We are confident that the growth we detected in the Beaufort Sea population is real. A finite rate of growth of 1%-2% and a current population of approximately 1,500 are both reasonable. Increased numbers of polar bears seen along Alaska's north coast in recent years, increased encounter rates by researchers, and matrix models all suggest the population is larger now than in the recent past. This increase in numbers has occurred despite continued hunting by local resident Native people, and despite development of the nation's largest oilfield at Prudhoe Bay. The age structure and survivorship patterns of recent years suggest the population in the Beaufort Sea may be at or near the limits set by its environment."

Canada is doing fine as well.
http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Taylor/last_stand_of_our_wild_polar_bears.html

"Of the 13 populations of polar bears in Canada , 11 are stable or increasing in number....It is noteworthy that the neighbouring population of southern Hudson Bay does not appear to have declined, and another southern population ( Davis Strait ) may actually be over-abundant. "

Dr. Mitchell Taylor
Polar Bear Biologist,
Department of the Environment,
Government of Nunavut, Canada

Temperatures in the UK have been below normal every day this summer-
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/EGLL/2007/6/21/CustomHistory.html?dayend=11&monthend=7&yearend=2007&req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Temperatures in the interior of Greenland have not made it above freezing for over 12 months, The last day it hit 32F was June 30, 2006. Al Gore's concerns about Greenland melting are completely detached from reality.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/04416/2007/7/1/MonthlyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Antarctica temps have been close to -90F. Forecast to go below -100F later in the week. Not much melting going on down there.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/89606/2007/7/11/WeeklyHistory.html

Record cold in South America
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/SABE/2007/7/11/MonthlyHistory.html

Not much summer in the northeast or south this year
http://hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/nrcc/MonthTDeptNRCC.png
http://hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/srcc/MonthTDeptSRCC.png

Temperatures in Alabama have been declining by more than .2 degrees per decade since 1920
http://climvis.ncdc.noaa.gov/tmp/graph-Jul1108:20:120528259277.gif

"The Emperor's New Clothes"

OK, I admit it, I started laughing when I saw the "powerful" poster. I mean it is just funny and completely ludicris.

Beyond that, I wanted to shake it and watch the snow. Oh wait, it's global WAAAArming, there is no snow right? My bad.

OK, I'm still laughing.

Stupid Cows belching all the time causing this warming. Don't they have any respect for the cuddly, wuddly polar bear.

Mary, great point.

I assume this a joke! If not, there are some incredibly stupid people that they allow to call themselves scientists. So, we can assume that cows didn't used to belch, fart or do other gross things that animals naturally do, correct? I'm just wondering, when there were untold thousands of bison running all over the larger portion of what is now U.S. of A. and Canada did they have eough manners not to do these things? Maybe the Native Peoples taught them how to control their natural functions.

How absurd! And pointless, as is all of the AGW nonsense. It's the SUN, stupid! It's been doing it for countless eons.. even before belching cows came along.

Whew, another hot one today. Going into the 90s again. And did you guys know that Portland, Oregon had a record high of 102 yesterday? Seattle is forecast to break their record today with a high of 97.

Ozio, I thought you said this summer wasn't hot?

I see Patrick continues to cherry-pick the 10% of the world that's cooler than normal, and ignores the 90% of the world that's warmer than normal. Not surprising.

Mark,

Clearly yesterday's temperature in Portland is representative of the entire earth.

How about the ocean, which comprises 70% of the earth? Most of the ocean is normal or below normal temperatures.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/sst/ani-weekly.html

So in your estimation, South America, Greenland, Antarctica, Europe, and most of the US only make up 10% of the planet?

Wasn't someone around here talking about how cold it's been in Barrow, AK lately?

Hmmm, Alaska, including Barrow, was above average during June.

http://www.sitnews.us/0707news/070907/070907_weather.html

"I see Patrick continues to cherry-pick the 10% of the world that's cooler than normal, and ignores the 90% of the world that's warmer than normal. Not surprising"

Mark,
I certainly wouldn't say that the SH only makes up 10% of the global landmass. Virtually the entire SH is having its coldest Winter in decades.

Mark;
Whew, the last time I checked it was summer was it not? Are records not meant to be broken? Cherry-pick 10% of the world that is cooler while ignoring a WHOPPING 90% of the world that is warmer...please fill all of us in on that 90% of the world that you are speaking of..please! I can't wait to hear more stupidity. Were are all the hurricanes?? Warning 2008 will see record number of Atlantic hurricanes which will devastate the U.S mainland. I can't wait for a Dem to get into office so I can blame a naturally occurring event on the Dems like they have Bush. RIDICULOUS!

I believe that our good AGWer Mark has finally realized that climate change really is all about the weather experienced in one's backyard. Welcome to the bandwagon. To that end, I believe this is the coldest summer we have had in some time as we have not set any all time highs around here. See problem solved.

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"10% of the world that's cooler than normal, and ignores the 90% of the world that's warmer than normal. Not surprising."

Back that statement up with some fact..... please.

Jon

Global temperatures have been above average -- in most cases, much above average -- for the past 122 consecutive months, jon.

But hey, it was cold in Timbucktoo today. I mean, surely, this means that AGW isn't occuring.

LOL.

Actually global temperature have been on the rise since the coldest decades of the Little Ice Age (1610-1680). So, it is more accurate to say, we've been warming for about 325 years give or take a decade.

If you really want to cherry pick the data, Great Britain had its warmest and driest year in 1666. From the Winter of 1666 through September, London didn't receive a drop of precipitation; the summer that year got into the 30-35 deg C range as early as May, and remained that way for 5 months.

A large area of Scandanavian high pressure sat atop Northern Europe for almost 15 months. Strong, dry northeasterly breezes kept things hot and very dry. So dry that much of London burnt to the ground during the Great London Fire of 1666. To add to thier misery, the high pressure that caused so much heat in the summer, advected frigid polar air into the UK during the winter of 1666-67. It was so cold that the oak trees split down the middle, and in Scotland ice flows brought in polar bears and Intuit Indians.

Even during periods of long abnormally cold global temperatures, many regions can have excessively hot summers due to strong continental polar influences. Many of these influences can last well into the next climate optimum/minimum.

What is happening in the Southern Hemisphere (unpredictable, unforecasted cold temperatures) should not be so easily dismissed. Last year, South Africa and parts of South America had a cold snowy winter; this year it has spread through out the entire mid-latitudes of the Southern Hemisphere. According to AGW theories, the mid-tropicsheric tropics should see the first indications of warming. This has failed to occur. The largest body of water, the Pacific, has entered an El Nino neutral stage, and will most likely go into an El Nina stage (Cold) some time in the near future. Since the Great El Nino episode of 1997-1998, the Pacific has maintained its positive PDO position -just barely. It looks like things there are changing.

Mark:

Whew, glad it was cold in Timbucktoo and the AGW isn't happening, that was close!!

Brett: Hate to say it but since AGW apparently ain't occurring, your gonna have to go back to only forecasting Canadian weather. Sorry bout your luck. Say is Timbucktoo in Canada or somewhere else?

Does not cut it Mark. Still waiting.

Its a good thing that cows don't smoke cigars.

Its actually a very worthwhile enterprise to try to reduce the amount of methane produced by ruminants via supplements or engineered feed stock. Methane's potentcy as a greenhouse gas will eventually be mitigated by its conversion to CO2, but this conversion takes about 10 years. The cumulative effects on climatic positive feedbacks that occur due to the short term methane in the atmosphere in that 1-10 years is something that we can't afford.

As much as I detest the Chinese government and their handling of environmental, health and human rights issues, they deserve credit for looking into this.

The Chinese aren't looking into this it was just posted on a China website.

But, if they are, yep, their gonna fix the huge cow emission problem but still build a million coal fired powerplants. And oh, they burn the cruddy coal, not the high end stuff we have to. And, as I understand it, they don't care a wit about what comes out of the stacks and they have never heard of a "scrubber".

Even though I don't buy into the religion of AGW, I can tell you I do not like the idea of all of those cruddy powerplants coming on line wasting resources and polluting the air.