Taxing all the polluters of CO2 should work just fine. That should do the job of ridding our country of industry.

I would be very interested in seeing how they are going to collect from volcanoes, oceans, animals,and dieing vegetation. For some weird reason I don't think they will get much.

Were these questions from the snowman reporter I heard about? I must say that that fact lends tremendous credibility to the questions.

As for the answers, fantastic visions from all if they were living in a utopian society. Not a single one of them understands the enormity and impractability (sp) of their respones.

Gotta love Clinton, be vague, vague and more vague, and then tax the batcrap out of big oil. Earth to the senator, companies don't pay taxes your subjects do.

Obama, national interests ahead of special interests. Huh? Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Democrats, for sure, and probably the Republicans, nothing more than a special interest group?

I'd vote for Gravel, did I see him say that he would eliminate income tax? Works for me. Me thinks, he don't understand how much of his salary and how many of his pet projects would not get funded if there wasn't an income tax.

"Gravel: Change the tax structure. Tax on what Americans spend rather than what they earn. This will take our nation from a consuming nation to a savings nation. That is the biggest thing we can do to alter climate change."

Surprised the right-wing isn't embracing this. After all, their denial of AGW is mostly based on their political ideology rather than sound science. This is the type of tax structure they've been advocating for years.

All we need is the technology to cap volcanoes and capture outgasing from oceans in an amount equivalent to human emissions. This would be proper.

Just some facts:

"By AccuWeather.com Meteorologist Donn Washburn

A deadly heat wave burned parts of southeastern Europe for a ninth straight day Wednesday. The heat wave, which brought widespread temperatures of 100-110 degrees F and local readings to 115F, took its greatest toll on Hungary where as many as 500 people died. Dozens of others died from heat-related illnesses elsewhere in the region.

Torrential cloudbursts broke over the western tip of the island of New Guinea during the first half of this week. Sorong, Indonesia, was flooded by 20.92 inches of rain within 84 hours as of Wednesday night, local time. For perspective, July's average rainfall is 12.8 inches in Sorong.

Wednesday was even hotter than usual in Iraq as temperatures widely soared above 110 degrees F outside of the northern mountains. In Baghdad, the temperature shot to 118 degrees F. In the southeast, 120 degrees F was reached in Tallil.

Tuesday, high heat surged northward into parts of western and central Canada. Temperatures widely climbed into the 90s F from southern Alberta to western Ontario. It was hottest in southern Saskatchewan where highs above 100 degrees F were registered. Coronach reached 108 degrees F, and Weyburn peaked at 107F. Almost as hot was Estevan with its high of 104 degrees F. "

Brrrrr... the world is cooling! (It was 19�C in London, but everywhere else, it's baking... but HEY, remember, London is cool!)

Mark,

Do you have anything else other then your same tagline. It gets so old.. please tell me you have something else.

The democrats feel they have to give a rediculous answer no matter how unreasonable it is. They know they will have no say in what happens, so why not give out a line of bs.

GW is all politics now and we will suffer.

By the way, Second coolest july in the last 40yrs so far where i live in california.. Keep the CO2 coming, love this cool summer..

Ah, I see the elitest party, the party of compassion, and love, the party of the children, and the working class and the downtrotten, and of course the most important of all, peace, has taken up the issue of the farce and is spewing their propaganda. How caring of them! For the record, this little black duck did NOT watch the youtube extravaganza the other night. I don't watch three ring circuses!....:-DDDDDDDDD.

Oh, by the way, Marx, regarding this:

"Gravel: Change the tax structure. Tax on what Americans spend rather than what they earn. This will take our nation from a consuming nation to a savings nation. That is the biggest thing we can do to alter climate change."

Looks to me like this guy Gravel's idea is too radically American (oops excuse me, I ment to say right wing, which you still haven't defined for us all yet) for your MoveOn.org party. I expect he will be announcing his departure from the campaign before the end of the year!

Oh, and one more thing Marko. Regarding this comment from the Hilda-beast:

"Have a strategic energy fun that she would fund by taking away the tax break for oil companies."

Yep, great idea, there, Hillary. Make sure you raise the corporate tax on oil companies so the price of gas can go even higher! Brilliant!

DENY DENY DENY THE GLOBAL WARMING LIE!!!!!

"Gravel: Change the tax structure. Tax on what Americans spend rather than what they earn. This will take our nation from a consuming nation to a savings nation.

No wonder he is polling at about 1% of the Democrats. If the Dems did agree to implement it, they would undoubtedly come to an internal compromise which would raise both income and sales taxes at the same time.

That would definitely make the climate better. It would be a continual Garden of Eden around here if they could just raise taxes enough......

Well, it's clear from this that those seeking the highest office in our country are definitely not the "best and brightest." And it's not just the Democrat candidates; the Republican's slate of presidential candidates are another sorry bunch.

Where are tomorrow's leaders? Are these folks the product of our pathetic public education system?

Dodd: A 50 mpg standard by 2017
That will win him a lot of votes out west. People in Nevada want to spend two hours driving to buy groceries from their $200/acre farm located close to work

Edwards: No to nuclear power
Edwards - no to everything

Obama: place a cap on greenhouse gases.
Start by forcing politicians to quit emitting hot air and methane ridden BS

Clinton: Agnostic about nuclear power
White (wo)man speak with forked tounge.

Kucinich: Move away from reliance on oil and coal and toward wind and solar.
Hopefully he will do his campaigning in a wind powered bus.

Not a single mention of investing in new technology. President Bush seems to be the only person in Washington willing to discuss a sensible solution.

And it's not just the Democrat candidates; the Republican's slate of presidential candidates are another sorry bunch.

REPLY: Agreed, Big Time Rick! It's because of the RINOs that I am this close to changing my party affilation from R to Libertarian. What's holding me back is that Libertarians can't vote in the primary elections. (or can they? I'll have to look that up).

Where are tomorrow's leaders? Are these folks the product of our pathetic public education system?

REPLY: Not only that, but they are products of the 1960s. The decade where garbarge like the War on Poverty and Radical Environmentalism (aka the Global Warming/Cooling farce) were born out of an Ideology that goes against American principles. That in and of itself should be enough for you to decipher the problem!

DENY DENY DENY THE GLOBAL WARMING LIE!!!!!

Hey E! I am still waiting for summer to start here in the Western Pennsylvania. Where was all of that massive heat that was predicted last week (and back in May to boot)???? All of that Gloom and Doom??? Still waiting! Ain't buying it E, old buddy!....:-DDDDDD....

The Denier

P.S. Oh, and the last I looked, Baghdad was in a desert! But that's OK, we can blame that 118 degree F daytime high there on George Bush! LOL!!!

Emiliano,

What does this have to do with the story, I guess we can just start posting numbers on here.. Maybe you can start posting all the cool temps also. If you looked back in history you would see that there has been more then a dozen heat waves in europe that meet or exceed this one in the last forty years alone. I just love how anything happens is due to global warming. If there is too much rain it has to be global warming, if there is drought then it has to be GW. If you all only saw how idiotic it all is then you would quit the nonsense.

I just hope the world is smart enough to see what a money driven thing this is.

"Looks to me like this guy Gravel's idea is too radically American (oops excuse me, I ment to say right wing, which you still haven't defined for us all yet) for your MoveOn.org party. I expect he will be announcing his departure from the campaign before the end of the year!"

Al Gore proposed a very similar plan.

"It's because of the RINOs that I am this close to changing my party affilation from R to Libertarian."

It's a sad state of affairs when people who are so far to the Right think moderates are "RINOs"

500 dead in Hungary from the latest heat wave. Why aren't our 'Fair and Balanced' posters talking about this?

emiliano,

i have had about enough of your doom and gloom tactics...only the naive and scamsters take what you point out about select global weather events as evidence of manmade global warming...have you noticed the ground swell of real scientific support mounting against the computer and hollywood generated lies you agw believers promote?...enjoy your day in the sun, AGW's winter is fast approaching as a majority of voters will tire soon paying thru the nose for food, fuel and a place to live, realizing your scam is the reason behind their unwarranted and wasteful financial pain...

Oiznop:
I recently became an Independent after being in the R column my entire life. And I supported the Republican Party with $ not just votes. No more - I'm fed up with the whole lot. I live in Ohio and will vote an "issues only" ballot in the primary.

I believe that the Republican Party left me, not the other way around.

I agree that the 60s counter culture produced a lot of these folks. If you haven't seen this video, it's worth a look. I call it "Patton 2007." It's about the war on terror and how many of our fellow citizens and elected leaders have forgotten the lessons of history.

From YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ

There was an excellent program on the History Channel this past week about the Little Ice Age and its effects on human culture. It was a 2 hour program that discussed the socio-economic impact of Medieval Warm Period (okay, I know some don't believe there ever was such a thing) and the shift into the Little Ice Age. It was a good program and goes to show that cool isn't always a good thing and that warmer isn't always a bad thing. Defintely more educational than politicians debating global warming.

This entire AGW charade is absurd nonsense, going from the sublime to the ridiculous (i.e. asinine).
Yesterday when I was fishing in my lake, the paddles hit the bottom, releasing gas bubbles. Are they going to tax me on this "greenhouse Gas" release? What are we going to try to ban or tax….carbonated beverages, track meets, or horse races? I can just see what is next……gas producing foods. Oh the price of beans is going to rise dramatically.
When all the nations of the world including China and India do something more than pollute and reproduce…..call me…until then I will be watching the racing channel, drinking a coke, eating a hamburger with a plate of pork and beans, while fishing in the lake.

Emalliano,

It is that kind of dumpster diving for data that gets to tiresome. Remember, it is the AGW alarmists who insisted that not only was 2007 going to be warmer than 2006, but it will probably be the warmest year in a million years. It is the alarmists who troll for record droughts, floods, heat waves, etc... and then headline them around the world. It isn't the sceptics who have a theory and agenda to prove -but the alarmists.

Yes, this years weather is behaving very erratically. But erratic weather on a global scale, which lasts several years is an indication of a cooling planet, not a warming one. Stop and ask yourself how can cold polar airmasses in Central Canada form in the middle of Summer and penetrate the Deep South if the polar source regions were in fact warming? What is both the North Atlantic and Central Pacific SSTs cooling? Why has the Southern Hemisphere's warming all but stopped during the last 6 years, and has in fact begun to cool? If the Antartic is in fact warming to the degree people say it has, where are all of those frigid polar air masses coming from that have plagued South America, Austrailia and South Africa?

Although this blog entry had nothing to do with the debate on the reality of anthropogenic global warming (AGW), the comments bring up so many logical fallacies that some clarification is in order.

The fact that CO2 has caused many cyclical warmings of the Earth in the past is irrelevant to the debate over AGW. The debate is over why CO2, and thus temperatures, are rising THIS time.

The fact that volcanos and other natural phenomena are sources of carbon dioxide is irrelevant to the debate over AGW. Those sources produce the natural "greenhouse" effect that is in fact necessary for our survival. The problem is that we are rapidly releasing CO2 and accelerating this greenhouse effect too fast for natural and human ecosystems to adjust.

"It is the alarmists who troll for record droughts, floods, heat waves, etc... and then headline them around the world. It isn't the sceptics who have a theory and agenda to prove -but the alarmists."

You mean alarmists like Patrick Henry and Quiznop who post about the "cold" places in the world every day?

"Stop and ask yourself how can cold polar airmasses in Central Canada form in the middle of Summer and penetrate the Deep South"

I wouldn't call 107 degrees in Saskatchewan and 85-degree temperatures up near the Hudson Bay a "cold polar airmass."

Yes, JP, cold air masses can form, even in a warmer world. It's called weather.

"Why has the Southern Hemisphere's warming all but stopped during the last 6 years, and has in fact begun to cool?"

85% of the Southern Hemisphere is open ocean. Water takes longer to heat than land, thus the slower rate of warming as compared with the Northern Hemisphere. This is expected.

I think the idea of Global Warming being established as a scientific fact given the short period of available research data is ludicrous. The claim that it is absolutely not possible that it's related to a natural cycle is so unproveable but no one seems to really get that.
Remember the hole in the ozone layer that caused the massive PANIC? What happened with that? Not much. I guess everyone stopped using AQUA NET and it turned out okay? I don't know. Point being there was epic scale panic that we were all going to have the flesh seared from our bones by an angry sun.
So, is it possible that there's some effect created by humans? Sure, very possibly. That's not really the big question, because any rational person could see and believe that hey, this could very well have some sort of effect. The question is what do you do? I have no issue with taking logical and reasonable steps to reduce CO2 emissions and the like. It can't HURT. But the zealots and retards who preach gloom and doom are overreacting. No one seems to examine the cost/benefit of so called "green" technologies. Remember when they wanted to have us all plug our cars into the wall at night and have them run electric? Genius, right? No. So instead of the exhaust coming out of my tailpipe, er... my car's tailpipe, it comes out of the increased load on the electric plant. We don't gain much.
The total demand for energy is not going to change except to grow. People get all hyped up about shuffling it around, but it doesn't really change anything. So your car is a hybrid. Big deal. It's a dog that sucks to drive and has three hundred pounds of batteries to be dealt with every few years. So you trade air pollution for hazardous waste.
The only solution, in my mind, is to supply the world with its energy requirements in ways with a lesser impact. For the moment, I wish they would build more nuclear plants. Plenty of juice and NO pollution. The waste byproducts are minimal and so you put them in a cave somewhere that's build stronger than any fortress on earth and put a sign on the door that says DO NOT OPEN 'TIL XMAS. THAT'S XMAS IN THE YEAR 119,212 BTW, K THX. In the long term, we should be investing more into the use of FUSION power, which would be, and I am not exaggerating, the greatest scientific discovery in the history of man. You can read up on it, but basically it's free, clean energy with absolutely no byproduct except pure water. The japanese are big into this, and I think they have gotten it to work, but it currently takes more power to operate than it generates, mainly because you have to suspend a giant blob of plasma that's roughly the heat of the sun in the middle of a chamber with magnets. If it comes into contact with anything, it will obviously melt right through it, so you have to hold it in midair with giant powerful electromagnets.
ANYWAY, thats where my thinking gets me. Stop trying to deal with the byproducts on the back end and instead eliminate them altogether on the front.

"The waste byproducts are minimal and so you put them in a cave somewhere that's build stronger than any fortress on earth and put a sign on the door that says DO NOT OPEN 'TIL XMAS. THAT'S XMAS IN THE YEAR 119,212 BTW, K THX."

Boy, I'm sure glad you're not President.

Al Gore proposed a very similar plan.

REPLY: Show me!

It's a sad state of affairs when people who ar