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Everything is really heating up in Greenland.

Historically, most people would prefer to live in Copenhagen than Greenland.

However, with Global Warming, Greenland could be the new Florida!

When can I apply?

Brett:

Building a "climate" university in a short period is not unrealistic considering that the donations from the "feel good" crowd would probably be huge. As such, more money could be spent on construction and using a fast track approach.

And you are correct, construction of public buildings, such as schools, is a GIGANTIC waste of time and money. It is solely for that reason that I do not vote for ANY school levies. This even though much of my companies business is designing the framing for new school buildings.

Sadly though, the big problem is not the construction but what would be "taught" therein or rather divined. Climate study seems to be a code word for preaching the religion of AGW rather than studying the actual climate.

Brett - can you comment to Andrea?
Are the doubters to all vacate the site & allow only true GLO-BULL warming believers to attend?
Andrew, I'm with you on reducing my footprint, I just don't see the CO2 stuff as important compared to the other pollutants, either air or water borne.
Be good,
Rick.

andrea:

if you people complain about the articles and facts or anything of the AGW

then ...

Why do you read and post?

by the way
you are in the global warming section

Posted by andrea | August 22, 2007 1:00 PM

Let me guess, this would be staffed by IPCC approved faculty and be run by solar and wind power alone. And any non-Greenlanders would buy carbon offsets to cover the travel to and from their native countries.
Just what we need, another trough for more AGW proponents to wallow up to.

There are to be only 10 research positions. It will be a small university, maybe the reason for its quick build projection.

I attended University of Miami in the 70's when it was known as Suntan U. Maybe we could have a class reunion there. Maybe Ft. Lauderdale's artic seal will attend with us.
http://www.local10.com/news/13273194/detail.html

Greenland sounds like an excellent place to build it. When people start going there and seeing how ridiculously cold it is there they will witness first hand how AGW is a farce.

Shame they can't focus on "climate studies" instead of "climate change." Adding a preconceived notion to the mission of a university is not a good idea, because it will produce imbalance in their research.

A sucker is born every minute. Can't blame Denmark for trying to bilk their share.
Al Gore can lead the ceremonial chants and take his share for "moral leadership".
Maybe he can find some more Monks to make those hefty cash donations he was so fond of.
Don't listen to me cause I'm a DENIER.

Perhaps they could study how to record acurate temp measurments. Seem there is a real need.
See this link. More trouble for poor Hansen. This may drive him over the edge. And from Mcintyre again. Talk about salt in the wound. Damn!
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1954#more-1954

I have to agree with Patrick. What a shame to build a university focused on making ideology fact. Its nothing surprising however and if it comes to pass the students traveling back and forth will put tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Oh well, the extra carbon dioxide may help improve the drought resistance of the forests here in Virginia. They seem to be doing well this summer despite a lack of rainfall.

Over the 10-year period as a whole, climate continues to warm and 2014 is likely to be 0.3 deg C warmer than 2004. The overall trend in warming is driven by greenhouse gas emissions but this warming effect will be broadly cancelled out over the next few years by the changing patterns of the ocean temperatures. Want more information click on www.LifeOfEarth.Blogspot.com

Everything is really heating up in Greenland...When can I apply?

Andrew,

You think? It has averaged 4F in the interior of Greenland during August, with a low of -25F and no temperatures above freezing.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/04416/2007/8/23/MonthlyHistory.html

Or perhaps you would prefer to study in Antarctica where it has averaged -80F this month? -104F this week.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/89606/2007/8/23/MonthlyHistory.html

Temperatures like this do not justify the slightest concern of widespread melt on either ice sheet.

Tom,

this warming effect will be broadly cancelled out over the next few years by the changing patterns of the ocean temperatures.

So what is cooling the ocean? Did the Met or Hansen turn on the refrigeration units? You can't have it both ways. Either temperatures are going up, or they aren't. The invocation of magical, inexplicable forces has no place in the scientific process.

Plan a University??? Why should they plan when they haven't had a rational thought since the AGW nonsense started? The sky is falling we have to do something!
As long as somebody is willing to pay they are willing to build.

Patrick, why do you always only talk about the interior of Greenland? Perhaps it's because the significant warming on the coast doesn't support your argument?

Mark,

If you have ever flown over Greenland (as I do several times a year) you would realize that the vast majority of the ice and snow is in the interior, where the snow is so deep it covers up everything except for the tallest mountain peaks.
Thus the possibility of sea-level rise is directly linked to the temperatures in the interior.

Hope this helps. Also, many sections of Greenland's coast have not shown much warming. The focus by AGW advocates has been conveniently placed on the southwest coast, which makes up a tiny percentage of the landmass. Some of the recent coastal melting has exposed viking farms which have been buried under ice for centuries.

Instead of being obsessed with looking for right-wing conspiracies, have you considered just opening up your mind a little?

Question for Mark: If we all accept that the planet has been warming continually since the LIA in the 1800s then the only important question questions pertain to why. Is it natural or man made? Is it wiithin our power to affect it. Why then are we all discussing melting ice in the North? Would not the Ice be melting in any event if the globqal temperatures have been rising? How is it signifigant to the debate about C02's role in global warming?

Is it natural or man made?

Mostly anthropogenic, but some natural variations have augmented it.

"Is it wiithin our power to affect it."

Of course. People who believe we have absolutely no effect on our climate are incredibly ignorant, not to mention naive.

"Why then are we all discussing melting ice in the North?"

Greatest warming, in theory, is expected in the Arctic. Current observation is backing up this theory. Albedo and other positive feedbacks are far greater in the North. Northern Hemisphere also has much more land mass, which is why it is heating up faster than the Southern Hemisphere.

"How is it signifigant to the debate about C02's role in global warming?"

There are other GHGs, namely methane and nitrous oxide, which are more potent than CO2 but don't last as long in the atmosphere. Land use changes also causes AGW. And the so-called "dirty soot" problem -- if it even exists -- is anthropogenic.

Terrible melting in Greenland! It is the second warmest month of the year and temperatures are averaging -1F for the week, and a low of only -25F!
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/04416/2007/8/29/WeeklyHistory.html

I can just imagine the waterfalls and collapse of the ice sheet under these fiery conditions brought on by CO2. No wonder Dr. Hansen believes the ocean will rise 25 meters this century. We are clearly right at the tipping point for Greenland.

Also Vostok, Antarctica made it above -100F briefly today. Same problem down there!
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/89606/2007/8/29/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Melting everywhere - gasp!!!!