These ideas are not amusing. They are extremely dangerous. These are the things that will bring about true harm to our planet. We should be discussing how to live with climate change and not how to control our planet's climate. We know so little, yet we seem willing to talk about doing so many radical things with almost reckless regard for the consequences.

This is the only part of warming that truly scares me.

Bill

my favorite is Bush pumping 8 billion tons of Co2 into the air
LOL

What a bunch of total morons, and these are the scientists that believe in global warming
rotfl

Temperatures around here continue to be "extremely" low. About 6 degrees below normal. Even colder than last year's record breaking winter.
http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/wrcc/30dTDeptWRCC.png

This remarkable obsession with 0.0004 concentration of a non-toxic, inert gas which is essential for life! I'm sure we could find a million other scary sounding numbers if we stepped out of this particular neurosis for a while.

I propose that the UN/IPCC makes a New Year's resolution to improve it's mental health.

Speaking of extreme temperatures - I have learned to be wary of some NOAA maps which seem to consistently show temperatures higher than reality. This particular map shows Colorado nearly 5C above normal yesterday, when in fact we were actually about 5F below normal.
http://web1.cdc.noaa.gov/map/ANIM/sfctmpmer_01a.fnl.30.gif
http://www.accuweather.com/forecast-climo.asp?partner=forecastfox&traveler=1&zipcode=80549

Also interesting is that that map does not show any cold temperatures in the ocean, only warm ones. La Nina is not acknowledged, though other maps seem to be able to find it.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/sst/ani-weekly/5.gif

I would hate it if we spent all of that money, when all we have to do is wait. GW is natural. Get over it. The debate is over, Algore is an idiot. You know, he is NOT a scientist.

This years winter is showing signs of some cooling, but we should not take one year, or even 10 years, as a sign of things to come. Climate has always changed and always will. Man is NOT to blame.

Spend all of that money on paying our national debt off.

My 2 cents.

Hi Guys,

Here here way to go. LOL these guys are loons of the first degree. CO2 is not bad. Life can not exist with out CO2 period! Its not pollution. Plants like more CO2 and it does not drive climate.

Dusting hurricanes. Now what do you think the unintended consequences of that action would be?

PH: records (especially breakdown/changes to data ect) should be kept for future reference. Also note timing of cryosphere breakdown and lack/delay of crutem v3 data for November. Becoming paranoid LOL

PH,
I also believe those maps are consistently showing temperatures higher than they should be. Here are two more examples, Churchill, MN & Eureka, NU.

http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/CYYQ/2007/12/25/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/CWEU/2007/12/25/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Mr. Henry: Your obsession with low winter temperatures is very funny! It is as you believe that it will make global warming go away. It is very possible to have cold, bad weather at the same time as global warming and that is not to hard to prove. You must not know very much about science but you are very good at putting up web sites. Do you have a science degree in climate or some such? I see you at this site many times a day so I wonder.

Mr. R. Compton: You deserve 1.999999 cents change!!

Here is a site that is very warm.
http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=dar+es+salaam

It must mean that there is global warming!!

Razstrelnikov said:
"Mr. Henry: Your obsession with low winter temperatures is very funny! It is as you believe that it will make global warming go away. It is very possible to have cold, bad weather at the same time as global warming and that is not to hard to prove. You must not know very much about science"

Raz, how is that any different than calling every weather event in the summer, due to global warming?
Even when the predicted summer weather events do not happen, they try to justify if with "climate change".

Now that really is funny and does show their ignorance.
Or agenda.

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I am not a chemist, but I wonder if it's conceivable that we could use all that CO2 scrubbed by the "scrubbers" and convert it back into a organic molecules that can be burned for fuel, sort of an artificial photosynthesis. Afterall, plants convert CO2 into glucose, which could theoretically be be turned into biofuel.
While this would mean that we would be putting alot of the scrubbed carbon right back into the atmosphere when we burned the resulting fuel, it would be better than burning new fossil fuels. We would have our own sort of carbon cycle going on, where we convert CO2 into fuel, burn it, harvest the resulting carbon dioxide, burn the resulting fuel, and so on. We could even make the scrubbers solar powered, so that they would be like gigantic artificial chloroplasts.

Also, I'm a little worried about Nunavut temps. The weather stataion that I keep an eye on is called Shepherd Bay, and is located on the mainland of Nunavut. Shepherd Bay is climatically one of the coldest sites on mainland North America. Much of the last few years have seen temps well above average there. I was a little encourages by this November, where temps ran just about normal, now, however, with just 5 days left in December, yhe mean monthly temp is running some 8 degrees F above normal.

Sigh

“Misting sea water into the atmosphere” has to be the winner of absurdity or is that sheer stupidity. This idea demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the world outside of their expertise. You really have to love these self absorbed “scientists” who attempt a short foray out of their world and into ours.
National Center for Atmospheric Research physicist John Latham and Edinburgh University engineer Stephen Salter want to make clouds of sea water to block the sun.
…..And these geniuses want to Salt the entire atmosphere, making it a saline solution? SO what happens when the clouds turn to rain? Can one say “a rain of salt!”
A brilliant idea but they forgot a lesson from history or any understand of biology.
Ancient texts and the Bible tells stories of “salting the earth,” a tactic used by people who hated their enemies so much that they destroyed the enemy’s future by sowing salt onto farm fields so crops could no longer grow. It was an early version of genocide.
"Let's stop Global Warming by destroying the earths ability to feed us." Well maybe it’s their way of population control! Kill off millions and CO2 production declines. Brilliant in its simplicity!
That has to be the dumbest of all. It also show a complete lack of understanding on how “Mother Earth” works.
Remember: "Primum non nocere" “First do no harm”

It's hard to pick a favorite when the AGW theory hasn't been indisputably proven.

People researching the effects of higher T and higher CO2 on plants have the right idea: generate data, where possible.

Here's the sanest idea yet...do nothing. The earth will be exactly the same temperature in a hundred years whether we do nothing or adopt the UN's snake oil "remedy". The catastrophic difference will be the living standards if we do nothing or buy the snake oil. I much prefer we do nothing and let more of the world's poor get closer to our standard of living than see ours get lowered as well as the poor's.
I had to laugh at the gushing comments at the bottom of the article. These people really don't have a clue...

Mr. cbmclean, Thank you for the information on Nunavut. I have went to many sites for this place and found much interesting information. Do you know of anything about this place that we should be watching for? Your friend, Raz

cb,
Most of the sites I've been checking up there having been running below normal. What is the average for Shepherd Bay right now? I've put a link below for it this month. Like I said I don't know what the norms are. Where are you seeing it's running that warm?

cb,
Sorry, forgot the link.

http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/CYUS/2007/12/1/CustomHistory.html?dayend=26&monthend=12&yearend=2007&req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Anonymous,

Since the dawn of man, we have believed that weather is a response to our behavior. If we appease the gods, they may send us good weather. If we anger the gods, they may send us drought, floods and cataclysmic storms. The "wise men" have always believed that, and have always believed that they were somehow wiser than the previous generation.

Of course we now have sophisticated science and "consensus," which is why the next generation will laugh about global warming, just as the current generation laughs about global cooling.

Having lost faith in the church, politics and celebrities, many people have turned to scientist worship. Who will they turn to once they discover that scientists suffer exactly the same problems are their other fallen heroes?

cmbclean,

I can see why you are worried about Nunavut. Every single station is below zero. No wonder no one wants to live there.
http://www.wunderground.com/global/CA_NU.html

I think Joe Bastardi's patronising sports analogies should be enlisted to bore global warming into submission. At least then he'd be helping somehow rather than just spewing self-serving counterproductive misinformation based on guesswork like that he devoted his last article to.

Averages are made of the extremes and every thing that falls in between. The Climate is what it is...we have to learn to deal with it no matter what it is doing. To conciously attempt to change the climate or signifigant parts of it would be the biggest cause of unintended consequences the world has ever known.

Some impressive UHI in Barrow, Alaska this morning. 16-34 degrees warmer than surrounding rural stations, including other coastal thermometers. A difference like that is enough to render the entire monthly temperature record meaningless.
http://www.wunderground.com/stationmaps/gmap.asp?zip=99723&magic=1&wmo=99999

You may have to zoom out to see the nearby stations.

Mr./Mrs./Ms. Razstrelnikov

I don't know if you noticed this or not, there is a very good reason why it's warm in Tanzania this time of year. It's called summer. Notice the Lat/Lon of the site: 6.9 deg S 39.2 deg E

That S after the first number means that the site is located in the SH. That means that the seasons are opposite those of the NH. So, to put it in laymen's terms, winter in NH means it's summer in the SH.

Just an FYI.

Hey, Mark,

Check out the Space Weather site.

Still no sunspots on this side of the sun, and it looks as though the sunspot (978) you got so excited about a week or so ago is beginning to fade.

Reply: 978 was not the sunspot scientists were excited about, that one was from cycle 23.

/Just an FYI

In the 9th-10th century there was a Viking King of England called Canute. He knew better than his courtiers that he couldn't control nature but in order to demonstrate this he was obliged to sit on the beach and command the tide not to come in. Needless to say it did!

We are now having to learn the lesson again: the Earth may well become warmer and one thing for sure is that we will not stop it. A more sensible use of our time and resources would be to find ways of living with the warming, if and when it occurs.

As it is we are all being led by the nose to pay more taxes in a doomed attempt to stop the "inevitable"(?). How can the sensible people of the world ensure that common sense prevails?

Patrick,

The reason the NOAA single-day anomaly map does not show La Nina is because the La Nina SST anomaly is less than five degrees C, which is the minimum resolution for the NOAA map. It does show cold ocean temperatures off Antarctica, east of Japan, east of Kamchatka, and south of Alaska. The blue on the NOAA/CDC map is centered over Utah and Western Colorado, where most of the anomalous cold weather has been for the past week. It has been warmer in the Midwest and quite warm in the Northeast, which is reflected by the map. In general, it does not show a lot of warm of cool anomalies compared to over land because oceans are much better than land at moderating surface air temperatures. That's why we have a seas