The Democrats seem to all be convinced that they can control, through legislation, the climate and the behavior of other countries and religions. They all seem to believe that everything bad in the world is America's fault and responsibility to fix.

This seems very realistic, coming from people who can't even control their own lives or behavior.

"Visualize using your turn signal"

This is VIP comes direct from GISSTEMP
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/abs_temp.html
I'll leave it to readers to read between the lines and then invite comment

It doesn't really matter which candidate or party gets in next year, they have to look after the country's interests first and to adopt all this nonsense would hurt both the country and themselves at the polls.
Listening to a politician talking about global warming is like listening to a Chihuahua yapping...all bark and no bite...thankfully.

Fred Thompson gets my vote. The only one with the stones to stand up the the junk science. Everyone else on the Republican ticket him haws, flip flops and waffles on the issue, except for McCain, who is not a real Republican. As for that other party, um, er, uh, yeah, right!...LOL!!!!!!

Save the planet from hot air. MUZZLE ALL POLITICIANS BUYING INTO THE GLOBAL WARMING FARCE!!!!

I sure hope the Democrats can stop the Arctic meltdown!

-68F in Greenland this weekend.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=72.58000183,-38.45000076

Temperatures in Northern and Eastern Siberia have been consistently below -50F this week.

-47F in Alaska
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=64.32,-158.73

A carbon tax will definitely help cool things down there, as will placing severe limits on how much energy Americans use.

"Your request for vacation this year has been denied. You exceeded your carbon budget for the year in May, and under UN mandate 19615 are now having your paycheck garnished to help polar bears and people in Bangladesh. You should be very happy and grateful to help these important causes."

Oh, by the by, I have to comment on the new "fuel/mileage" standards signed into law this week for automobiles by our wonderful congress (that has an 18% approval rating), and our lame duck President (that has a 30% approval rating). Isn't it magically wonderful how with a stroke of a pen, that fuel standards will now magically be at 35 MPG for all vehicles in this country. How much will the price of your new car go up as a result of your all caring all feeling bloated big brother government and it's mandates??? Oh, incidentally, if you like Corvettes and other muscle cars, you can thank the government for their pending extinction.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317556,00.html

Your freedoms are being erroded, people. WAKE UP! AND DENY THE JUNK SCIENCE!!!!!

It is impossible to choose a candidate based on their campaign promises, especially this early. Most of these politicians lick their finger and hold it in the air to gauge which way the wind is blowing then adopt a position which they think will get them the most votes. If the wind shifts, then they shift with it. Whoever ends up being elected will then proceed to formulate policy based on their core beliefs.

If it's a liberal then look for big government "solutions" to soak the rich with higher taxes and punish the evil corporations for excess profits. America will move closer to socialism as these folks redistribute wealth through the tax code. Their environmental policies will be based on command and control over the economy and people's individual freedoms, not on what's good for Mother Earth. Remember, the concept espoused by Clinton: "It takes a village." Substitute "big government" for "village" and that's what you will get.

If it's a conservative, look for a less intrusive environmental policy with no big government mandates (excluding McCain, who is not a conservative). A conservative will seek to reward individual initiative and not artificially re-distribute wealth. Taxes won't go up as much and solutions to social problems like health care and social security will rely more on individual contributions than massive government programs.

Antarctic sea ice record has been "disappeared" again.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.south.jpg

In August, an adjustment was made which brought Antarctic sea ice levels down by about 1,000,000 km2. Despite the downwards adjustment, a record was set a few weeks later. Well, it appears that another adjustment has been made, as the record has once again disappeared.

The site is a mess right now, with broken graphs all over the place - but this is certainly an interesting development. Regardless, it appears that this year will shatter the record for the highest minima, because it is cold and the melt season is coming to an end soon.

Oh great ....just what we need ......more politicians spewing this week's line about something they are aware of in varying degrees.
You want to hear it ...they'll say it!
Profitable to them ....they'll tell you why you need it ...... something like a used car salesman.
Next week they'll probably all change their tunes and then back again.
What we have to be concerned about are the lobbies on both sides that, through cash, control the issue to their advantage. Unfortunately, we are currently seeing the results of the AGW lobby talking thru the mouths of some of these people. It is clear that major associations and corporations prefer the emphasis to be placed on AGW rather than real pollution and conservation of natural resources. Why? Cheaper ...a lot cheaper. Exceed your limit .....buy carbon credit or offsets ....then let the consumer pay! No pain -All gain! Real pollution controls require major changes in manufacturing and processes and are just too costly. These costs are more difficult to pass on to the consumer and take too long to justify. Climate realists, on the other hand, have few players in this game.... Honest science and honest data .......the power of voting! If the politicians think that the vote offsets the money influence, then the votes will always win.
So keep listening, after the flip-flops, then you decide! Taxation can never be a solution to "climate". Look at the countries that already have a "carbon tax" and what it is channelled to. Millions are collected and only thousands are invested in solutions ........like most targeted taxes!

Listening to the global warming deniers discuss climate change policy choices is truly bizarre. Regardless of their particular "opinion" of the science or the scientists, there are other reasons to support action on this front beyond the environmental concerns: national security (reduce our dependence on foreign oil) and global economic competitiveness (environmental standards and regulations are only going to increase, making US products less competitive unless we adapt) are only two - I'm sure there are other reasons. Yet they seeem wedded to 19th century technology and rigid ideology. Fortunately, the world is changing, leaving them increasingly (and deservedly) isolated. With the exception of some notable dinosaurs (Exxon-Mobil, Senator James Inhofe), the general public and private sector business interests are increasingly supporting action concerning climate change. The next presidency (GOP or Dem) will surely see some movement.

UK Chief scientist in sports cars warning to women ... if they want to join the fight against global warming, the Government's chief scientist has urged...."I was asked at a lecture by a young woman about what she could do and I told her to stop admiring young men in Ferraris," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/16/ncar116.xml

the man-made global warming hype is starting to thaw..
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

I think the best action right now is no action.

The science was declared a consensus so long ago, the door was shut on any new science so long ago

Truth is, this climate science is a brand new science.

Any thing we even tried to do right now, we have no clue if it would help or hurt.

and we lead the world on this technology, money, and infrastructure to do it.

We should be investing in ourselves and cleaning up our own act.

We should be selling this to them, not paying some third world countries (the UN's words not mine) to do it for us.

Ignorant sorry little political robots seem to have inflated views of thier own self importance always parroting thier masters lines "there's no such thing as global warming". These are the same people who think destoying the constitution is acceptable to defend ourselfs from some band of cave dwellers. We didn't give up our rights during the cold war but now the masters and thier robot parrots want to rule the world. Look in the mirror robots you're your own worst enemies. I took the time to educate myself and understand the politics behind the economy and the history of capitalism and fascizm. But through my studies I found out how ignorance can be a powerful force used to control poorly educated parrots with fear, financial punishment and sugar. Your ignorance is understandable because the government designed it that way. You're a victim and should be pitied. But like all fools once you've been warned you're on your own. What you don't want to admit is we are on the edge of a massive extinction event and you and your parrot friends are going to die. Sorry about the bad news boys. Educate yourselfs so you don't have to bore the rest of us with parrot talk or back yourselfs up with some science which isn't reguritated from your master's mouth. Fortunately you wont beleive me, which gives me and my family quite a large survival advantage over you and yours which I'd like to thank you in advance for. "Global warming is a hoax" "There's nothing we can do" keep repeating that robots! I'll be making other plans. Have a nice day!:)Truly yours.....S.L.

Vincent,
What's there to read between the lines he says
"we guess"
Oh boy is there room for larceny.
LOL you got to call that science at it's best.
For short term prognostication maybe but to turn the world upside down on this? What are people thinking of? AGW has to be a religion to accept this manure. Just don't ask anybody with a brain to.
Everybody should read this...and then tell me with a straight face that the science is settled.
Complete insanity.

, "the general public and private sector business interests are increasingly supporting action concerning climate change."

Of course they are silly. It's a multi-billion billion dollar business.

The climate change business is predicted to exceed $100 billion just in England within the next 10 years.

And with carbon credits commodities being a arbitrary made up number, the sky is the limit.

Huckabee is actually pretty strong on climate change. He also supports reforestation projects across the globe, which is something I didn't see from other candidates.

I like Romney's idea of a massive investment in alternative energy research, similar to what we did with the Apollo program.

"Your freedoms are being erroded, people. WAKE UP! AND DENY THE JUNK SCIENCE!!!!!"

LOL. What freedoms, Oiz? let's see, if I need gas, I can go to the local Exxon at $3.10/gal, the local Shell at $3.09/gal, or the local 7/11 at $3.11/gal. I'm glad the free market has given me so much choice and so much ability to compare price and quality in order to get the best value for myself.

Ideally, if the free market actually worked in this instance, I could fill my car with hydrogen, biofuel, power from the grid, or good old fashioned petroleum. Alas, I only have one choice, and that one choice is all essentially the same price around town. So much for the "choice" of the free market.

Anonymous,

There is a huge difference between the Bali approach and a sane approach. Mandating tax increases and draconian cuts in CO2 emissions will (besides all the other problems) make it much more difficult to develop technology solutions for energy efficiency and independence.

Adopting dangerous, knee-jerk mandates from organizations which would love to see the US on it's knees is stupid, and typical of the modern "Europeans are smarter than Americans" Democratic Party.

Prosperity, not panic, is the key to technology.

Hi Guys,

Thompson has the best approach. The others all flip like a Trout out of water or are sheep following the AGW Shepard. Here is the Popes' view on the AGW thingy.

"Human beings, obviously, are of supreme worth vis-�-vis creation as a whole. Respecting the environment does not mean considering material or animal nature more important than man. Rather, it means not selfishly considering nature to be at the complete disposal of our own interests, for future generations also have the right to reap its benefits and to exhibit towards nature the same responsible freedom that we claim for ourselves. Nor must we overlook the poor, who are excluded in many cases from the goods of creation destined for all. Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow. It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances."

http://www.radiovaticana.org/en1/Articolo.asp?c=173082
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=B553802D-8692-4113-8A37-280917179F32

secondlaw

If the Lefties are so concerned about the protection of the Constitution, please tell me why they are the first to trample it with their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment?

Second law,

take a step back from the edge and breathe. Your hsyteria does not wear well.

I?ll tell you what. I?ll swap yours for ours, knowing full well sharing will not make a whole lot of difference.
We just had an election and swapped a short old man with glasses for an even shorter man with glasses. Here in Australia all adults must vote by law unless you can show a doctors certificate proving you were dead at the time the election was called.
I realized many years ago that there was no real choice to be made between the contenders; both political parties right and left had long since been converted into equal moderate right wing models.
Democracies are evolutionary rather than revolutionary, common demands made by common people will eventually shape the finnished product. Eventually has already caught up all contenders are alike and have begun to sound the same. This will happen to all democratic nations.
in order to appeal to the masses who require economic growth above all other considerations, governments can only offer the same package..

I have never voted, instead I exercise my right to take the consequences and pay the $20 fine when it arrives. On the scale of fines its fairly reasonable and indicative of the seriousness of the deal. Parking fines here vary between $20-2000 and letting your dog foul the pavement is $75. Let the dog off the lead and free to roam on the street and you will have to pay $120. So in balance not voting is not such a big deal.
I save so much money by not having a dog, I can defecate on the pavement myself as long as I pick it up and put it in a plastic bag and carry on without any fear what so ever of being fined, because I live in a free country I can even roam freely without a lead. I am guaranteed that our economic prosperity will be managed by a government run by a short man with glasses no matter what. You too can ignore your right to cast a vote a still get what?s coming.

Second Law, I agree with you 100%

Second Law said:
"I found out how ignorance can be a powerful force used to control poorly educated parrots with fear"

Are you actually in agreement that this brand new science of climate change has reached a consensus?

Or are you one of those poorly educated parrots that can be manipulated with fear?